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subhomoy~~ATGS

#1 Posted 08:57am 13-03-10  

revising class 11 again to bid it bye

In a simple fixed pulley system, two unequal masses m[ss]1[/ss] and m[ss]2[/ss] are connected by a light string passing over a light fixed pulley.

the larger mass is stopped for a momment 2 secs after the system is set into motion. Find the time elapsed before the string is tight again...

m[ss]1[/ss]=300g
m[ss][ss]2[/ss][/ss]=600g


now the words a momment or an instant are tricky.....by these how much time is meant other wise the problem is not a problem!!
"Every physicist thinks that he knows what a photon is...I spent my life to find out what a photon is and I still don't know it!!!"- _Einstein_    

subhomoy~~ATGS

#2 Posted 8:46pm 13-03-10  

Re: revising class 11 again to bid it bye

what about this???

i just want to know what is the meaing of the phrase the larger mass is stopped [b]for a momment..[/b].......how much time is that supposed to mean???help please!![2][2]
"Every physicist thinks that he knows what a photon is...I spent my life to find out what a photon is and I still don't know it!!!"- _Einstein_    

subhomoy~~ATGS

#3 Posted 9:58pm 13-03-10  

Re: revising class 11 again to bid it bye

[image]43997609.jpg[/image]


now if this describes the situation described in the sum then, what i ask is what is the value of dt???
"Every physicist thinks that he knows what a photon is...I spent my life to find out what a photon is and I still don't know it!!!"- _Einstein_    

subhomoy~~ATGS

#4 Posted 9:59pm 13-03-10  

Re: revising class 11 again to bid it bye

if image is too unclear use magnifier....
"Every physicist thinks that he knows what a photon is...I spent my life to find out what a photon is and I still don't know it!!!"- _Einstein_    

subhomoy~~ATGS

#5 Posted 10:00pm 13-03-10  

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yea red lines signify the direction of velocity and black lines signify the direction of acceleration!!  and i cannot edit posts!![2][2]
"Every physicist thinks that he knows what a photon is...I spent my life to find out what a photon is and I still don't know it!!!"- _Einstein_    

subhomoy~~ATGS

#6 Posted 00:12am 14-03-10  

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some one clarify!![2][2]
"Every physicist thinks that he knows what a photon is...I spent my life to find out what a photon is and I still don't know it!!!"- _Einstein_    

harsh

#7 Posted 01:22am 14-03-10  

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.66 seconds ???
   

subhomoy~~ATGS

#8 Posted 01:34am 14-03-10  

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LOL ............ how did you know that????????????
"Every physicist thinks that he knows what a photon is...I spent my life to find out what a photon is and I still don't know it!!!"- _Einstein_    

harsh

#9 Posted 01:35am 14-03-10  

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i solved this
   

subhomoy~~ATGS

#10 Posted 01:54am 14-03-10  

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but how the hell were we supposed to know this???
"Every physicist thinks that he knows what a photon is...I spent my life to find out what a photon is and I still don't know it!!!"- _Einstein_    

harsh

#11 Posted 03:22am 14-03-10  

Re: revising class 11 again to bid it bye

SIMPLY SUPPOSE AT t=2 sec the large block starts moving from rest and small block has velocity which it gained in first 2 seconds
[image]44016990.jpg[/image]
after 2 seconds they become free from each other for some time
for finding time assume length of string is constant and equate distance travelled by 300 kg in upward = distace travelled by 600 kg in downward from rest.
   

Soumik

#12 Posted 1:58pm 14-03-10  

Re: revising class 11 again to bid it bye

How do u suppose that at t=2 sec, the larger block starts to move?

I'm getting the ans as [im]http://codecogs.izyba.com/gif.latex?%5Cfrac%7B3Mv%7D%7B2g%28m+M%29%7D[/im] where [im]http://codecogs.izyba.com/gif.latex?v%3D%5Cfrac%7B4g%7D%7B3%7D[/im] & M is the larger block.
   

harsh

#13 Posted 4:28pm 14-03-10  

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at t=2sec the large block is STOPPED FOR A MOMENT, NOT PERMANENTLY STOPPED..
u assumed that the block is permanently stopped so u are getting twice the answer from my answer....
   

virang1

#14 Posted 5:59pm 14-03-10  

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for a moment means the velocity of that mass will be zero.
Then it gain starts accelerating
   

Soumik

#15 Posted 11:03pm 15-03-10  

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I have assumed it to be at rest only for a moment harsh - the assumption that u are talking would give an entirely different ans.

I did the way virang is thinking on.
   

harsh

#16 Posted 11:26pm 15-03-10  

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I THINK YOUR VELOCITY IS WRONG
CHECK UR VELOCITY
I GET IT AS 20/3 BUT U GET AS 40/3
   
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