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#1 Posted 10:35pm 17-03-10 Easiest of All...Can we find a non-const. Polynomial which is prime for all integers x? The co-efficents of the Polynomial are all integers. |
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#2 Posted 01:17am 18-03-10 Re: Easiest of All...Let ' s assume there exists a non - constant polynomial F ( x ) such that eventually it takes all the values of prime numbers . Suppose for a particular value of x , say x = 1 , F ( x ) = P , where P is a prime number . So we get , F ( 1 ) ≡ 0 ( mod P ) But for all integers Y , F ( 1 + PY ) = 0 ( mod P ) Hence , F ( 1 + PY ) cannot be a prime number as it is divisible by P . So the only option left , is that F ( 1 ) = F ( 1 + PY ) . But that also is not permissible as F ( x ) is not a constant function by our assumption . So we conclude that there exists no such non - constant polynomial which can generate all the prime numbers . [hide]To prove that , F ( 1 + PY ) = 0 ( mod P ) ----- > One can assume F ( x ) = a[ss]0[/ss] x [p]n[/p] + a[ss]1[/ss] x [p]n - 1[/p] + ............. So F ( 1 ) = a[ss]0[/ss] + a[ss]1[/ss] + a[ss]2[/ss] + .............. = P And F ( 1 + PY ) = a[ss]0[/ss] ( 1 + YP ) [p]n[/p] + a[ss]1[/ss] ( 1 + YP ) [p]n - 1[/p] + ......... = { a[ss]0[/ss] + a[ss]1[/ss] + ................ } + YP ( ...............) - - - - - - -> { by binomial expansion } = P + YP ( ................... ) Clearly , F ( 1 + PY ) is divisble by P also .[/hide]
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#3 Posted 1:23pm 18-03-10 Re: Easiest of All...Yes, that's correct. Alternately, we have for integers x' and k, [im]http://codecogs.izyba.com/gif.latex?P%28x%27%29%3Dk[/im]. Now substitute [im]http://codecogs.izyba.com/gif.latex?%28x%27+k%29[/im] in place of x' and see the fun.
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#4 Posted 1:36pm 18-03-10 Re: Easiest of All...That's for polynomials in a single variable. I remember reading about a polynomial in some 10 variables that generates primes. Lets see if I can locate that source |
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#5 Posted 0:08pm 28-04-10 Re: Easiest of All...prophet sir, is that really true! I thought that there exists none! I would be really interested in reading this one.. One argument, that i could give is that when all the 10 variables take the same value, it reduces to a polynomial of one variable.. which cannot have all values as primes.. Hence a polynomial of more than one varaiable too cannot!
-when spring comes, it melts the snow one flake at a time… Edited on 1:25pm 28-04-10 |
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#6 Posted 11:19am 15-07-10 Re: Easiest of All...I located it at last! (whew!). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Formula_for_primes He gives an example with 26 variables where +ve values taken by the polynomial are all the primes. Note that he quotes a theorem by a Russian mathematician named Matiyasevich which already proves that such a polynomial will exist. So, a 10 variable one is also possible (thank god for that, i was wondering whether i was talking through my hat when I said that). That theorem is a landmark one as it decided a long standing problem named Hilbert's 10th problem
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#7 Posted 1:44pm 20-07-10 Re: Easiest of All...WOW! Big stuff up here....[152] |
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#8 Posted 4:47pm 20-07-10 Re: Easiest of All...Ya, quite some level of abstraction. I was simply following links and I read this Matiyasevich theorem and in that link this 10th degree polynomial was mentioned. My joy and relief knew no bounds :D |
