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rahul1993

#1 Posted 7:58pm 08-03-09  

Inequalities

let a,b,c,d be real nubers each greater than 1. prove that 8(abcd+1) > (a+1)(b+1)(c+1)(d+1)
   

Rohan

#2 Posted 6:46pm 09-03-09  

Re: Inequalities

Just substitute

a=1+A
b=1+B
c=1+C
d=1+D
AS they all are >1

: =  A,B,C,D >0

then we need to prove

8((1+A)(1+B)(1+C)(1+D)+1)>(A+2)(B+2)(C+2)(D+2)

=>

8(ABCD+ΣABC+ΣAB+ΣA+2)>16((A/2)(B/2)(C/2)(D/2)+ΣABC/8
                                            +(ΣAB/4)+ΣA/2+1)

simplifying ,

8ABCD+8ΣABC+8ΣAB+8ΣA+16>ABCD+2ΣABC+4ΣAB+8ΣA+16

which can be clearly seen


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theprophet

#3 Posted 7:10pm 09-03-09  

Re: Inequalities

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The sequences (1,1) and (a,b) are similarly ordered.

So, from Chebyshev's Inequality, we have 2(1+ab) >=(1+a)(1+b)

Similarly, we get 2(1+cd) >= (1+c)(1+d)

Again, the sequences (1,1) and (ab,cd) are similarly sorted.

So, 2(1+abcd) >= (1+ab)(1+cd)

Hence 8(1+abcd) >= 2(1+ab) 2(1+cd) >= (1+a)(1+b)(1+c)(1+d)
   

Grandmaster

#4 Posted 7:12pm 09-03-09  

Re: Inequalities

@prophet sir

what u've used---- Chebyshev's  is it mandatory to know it for jee
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theprophet

#5 Posted 7:30pm 09-03-09  

Re: Inequalities

I dont think so. I havent seen any real use of inequalities in JEE beyond AM-GM.

The standard ones in Integrals (Riemann sums), and m(b-a) <= I <= M(b-a) those are used at times
 Edited on 7:48pm 09-03-09    

rahul1993

#6 Posted 10:11pm 09-03-09  

Re: Inequalities

nice solution prophet sir.
a,b,c are positive real numbers. prove

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eureka123

#7 Posted 11:41pm 09-03-09  

Re: Inequalities

knowing Chebychef's,Cauchy-Schwarz,Jensons....helps a lot.....[1]
   

Grandmaster

#8 Posted 09:31am 10-03-09  

Re: Inequalities

hey minister eureka can u post an article over  Chebychef's,Cauchy-Schwarz,Jensons
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betrayed....

#9 Posted 09:51am 10-03-09  

integrate this demon!

∫√1+x[p]3[/p].dx
If i cannot do it ....... be sure i will do it !    

Asish

#10 Posted 09:54am 10-03-09  

Re: Inequalities

please post in a new thread...
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satan92

#11 Posted 03:52am 11-03-09  

Re: Inequalities

well we see that

a[p]2[/p]+b[p]2[/p]/a+b >(a+b)/2 as

It reduces to


a[p]2[/p]+b[p]2[/p]>2ab which is true as (a-b)[p]2[/p]>0

so applying it on the other two terms we get

>= (a+b)/2 +(b+c)/2 + (c+a)/2=a+b+c
   
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