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#1 Posted 11:05am 03-02-10 modulus equation[b](1) find all real values of x,y and z in [im]http://codecogs.izyba.com/gif.latex?x%5E%7B2%7D-%5Cleft%7Cx%20%5Cright%7C%3D%5Cleft%7Cyz%20%5Cright%7C[/im].......(1) [im]http://codecogs.izyba.com/gif.latex?y%5E%7B2%7D-%5Cleft%7Cy%20%5Cright%7C%3D%5Cleft%7Czx%20%5Cright%7C[/im]........(2) [im]http://codecogs.izyba.com/gif.latex?z%5E%7B2%7D-%5Cleft%7Cz%20%5Cright%7C%3D%5Cleft%7Cxy%20%5Cright%7C[/im]........(3) bhatt sir how can i solve these type of question.[/b] |
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#2 Posted 0:38pm 03-02-10 Re: modulus equationLet a=|x|, b=|y|, c=|z| Then we have [im]http://codecogs.izyba.com/gif.latex?%5Cbegin%7Bmatrix%7D%20a%5E2-a%3D%20bc%5C%5C%20b%5E2-b%20%3D%20ac%20%5C%5C%20c%5E2-c%20%3D%20ab%20%5Cend%7Bmatrix%7D[/im] Remember that a,b,c>0 Then we can write the inequalities [im]http://codecogs.izyba.com/gif.latex?%5Cbegin%7Bmatrix%7D%20a%5E2%5Cge%20bc%5C%5C%20b%5E2%5Cge%20ac%20%5C%5C%20c%5E2%20%5Cge%20ab%20%5Cend%7Bmatrix%7D[/im] WLOG [im]http://codecogs.izyba.com/gif.latex?a%20%5Cge%20b%20%5Cge%20c[/im] If any of the inequalitiies here becomes a strict inequality, then [im]http://codecogs.izyba.com/gif.latex?c%5E2%20%5Cge%20ab[/im] becomes absurd. (or equivalently if either a[p]2[/p]>bc or b[p]2[/p]>ac or c[p]2[/p]>ab then multiplying you get the absurdity [im]http://codecogs.izyba.com/gif.latex?%28abc%29%5E2%20%3E%20abc[/im] So we must have a =b=c =0 |
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#3 Posted 5:53pm 03-02-10 Re: modulus equationWell there are more solutions: (±1, 0, 0), (0, ±1, 0), (0, 0, ±1) |
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#4 Posted 6:04pm 03-02-10 Re: modulus equation@mavarick u picked this q from titu's Mathematical Olympiad challenges ?
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#5 Posted 6:32pm 03-02-10 Re: modulus equationContinuing from Kaymant Sir's post: That brings to the fore that some of the reasoning in #2 is wrong. a=b=c = 0 is a trivial solution As in #2, we have [im]http://codecogs.izyba.com/gif.latex?a%5E2%20%5Cge%20bc%3B%20b%5E2%20%5Cge%20ca%20%3B%20c%5E2%20%5Cge%20ab[/im] If none of a,b,c are zero and one of the inequalities is a strict inequality, then on multiplication we get [im]http://codecogs.izyba.com/gif.latex?%28abc%29%5E2%3Ea%5E2b%5E2c%5E2[/im] which is absurd. So we must have [im]http://codecogs.izyba.com/gif.latex?a%5E2%3Dbc%3B%20b%5E2%3Dac%3Bc%5E2%3Dab[/im] which leads us to back a=b=c = 0 Now WLOG suppose a= 0. Then at least one of b or c is zero. So lets say b =0. Then if c≠0, we must have c=1. Hence (0,0,±1) and permutations are solutions |
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#6 Posted 6:37pm 03-02-10 Re: modulus equationYeah, I checked up, the question is from that book, though he wouldnt have picked it up from there as solutions are given (it is pretty much on the same lines) |
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#7 Posted 11:44am 04-02-10 Re: modulus equationThanks hsbhatt sir and kaymant sir. actually It is given in Mathematics Spectrum(Arihant Publication).
Edited on 11:45am 04-02-10 |
