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mavarick

#1 Posted 11:05am 03-02-10  

modulus equation

[b](1) find all real values of x,y and z in
 [im]http://codecogs.izyba.com/gif.latex?x%5E%7B2%7D-%5Cleft%7Cx%20%5Cright%7C%3D%5Cleft%7Cyz%20%5Cright%7C[/im].......(1)
[im]http://codecogs.izyba.com/gif.latex?y%5E%7B2%7D-%5Cleft%7Cy%20%5Cright%7C%3D%5Cleft%7Czx%20%5Cright%7C[/im]........(2)
[im]http://codecogs.izyba.com/gif.latex?z%5E%7B2%7D-%5Cleft%7Cz%20%5Cright%7C%3D%5Cleft%7Cxy%20%5Cright%7C[/im]........(3)
bhatt sir how can i solve these type of question.[/b]
   

theprophet

#2 Posted 0:38pm 03-02-10  

Re: modulus equation

Let a=|x|, b=|y|, c=|z|

Then we have

[im]http://codecogs.izyba.com/gif.latex?%5Cbegin%7Bmatrix%7D%20a%5E2-a%3D%20bc%5C%5C%20b%5E2-b%20%3D%20ac%20%5C%5C%20c%5E2-c%20%3D%20ab%20%5Cend%7Bmatrix%7D[/im]

Remember that a,b,c>0

Then we can write the inequalities

[im]http://codecogs.izyba.com/gif.latex?%5Cbegin%7Bmatrix%7D%20a%5E2%5Cge%20bc%5C%5C%20b%5E2%5Cge%20ac%20%5C%5C%20c%5E2%20%5Cge%20ab%20%5Cend%7Bmatrix%7D[/im]

WLOG [im]http://codecogs.izyba.com/gif.latex?a%20%5Cge%20b%20%5Cge%20c[/im]

If any of the inequalitiies here becomes a strict inequality, then [im]http://codecogs.izyba.com/gif.latex?c%5E2%20%5Cge%20ab[/im] becomes absurd.

(or equivalently if either a[p]2[/p]>bc or b[p]2[/p]>ac or c[p]2[/p]>ab then multiplying you get the absurdity [im]http://codecogs.izyba.com/gif.latex?%28abc%29%5E2%20%3E%20abc[/im]

So we must have a =b=c =0
   

kaymant

#3 Posted 5:53pm 03-02-10  

Re: modulus equation

Well there are more solutions: (±1, 0, 0), (0, ±1, 0), (0, 0, ±1)
   



#4 Posted 6:04pm 03-02-10  

Re: modulus equation

@mavarick

u picked this q from titu's Mathematical Olympiad challenges ?
i m a guy who rules ma life according to my own wishes and i dun care a damm abt those nerdy insane creatures who hate me....A GPL to them from ma side....Goodbye.    

theprophet

#5 Posted 6:32pm 03-02-10  

Re: modulus equation

Continuing from Kaymant Sir's post:

That brings to the fore that some of the reasoning in #2 is wrong.

a=b=c = 0 is a trivial solution

As in #2, we have [im]http://codecogs.izyba.com/gif.latex?a%5E2%20%5Cge%20bc%3B%20b%5E2%20%5Cge%20ca%20%3B%20c%5E2%20%5Cge%20ab[/im]

If none of a,b,c are zero and one of the inequalities is a strict inequality, then on multiplication we get [im]http://codecogs.izyba.com/gif.latex?%28abc%29%5E2%3Ea%5E2b%5E2c%5E2[/im] which is absurd.

So we must have [im]http://codecogs.izyba.com/gif.latex?a%5E2%3Dbc%3B%20b%5E2%3Dac%3Bc%5E2%3Dab[/im]

which leads us to back a=b=c = 0

Now WLOG suppose a= 0. Then at least one of b or c is zero. So lets say b =0.

Then if c≠0, we must have c=1.

Hence (0,0,±1) and permutations are solutions
   

theprophet

#6 Posted 6:37pm 03-02-10  

Re: modulus equation

Yeah, I checked up, the question is from that book, though he wouldnt have picked it up from there as solutions are given (it is pretty much on the same lines)
   

mavarick

#7 Posted 11:44am 04-02-10  

Re: modulus equation

Thanks hsbhatt sir and kaymant sir. actually It is given in Mathematics Spectrum(Arihant Publication).
 Edited on 11:45am 04-02-10    
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