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#1 Posted 5:28pm 11-03-10 Nice Integral-~~~~plz solve 1) [im]http://codecogs.izyba.com/gif.latex?\int_{0}^{\infty}{\frac{1}{(x^2+a^2)(x^2+b^2)}}dx[/im] 2) [im]http://codecogs.izyba.com/gif.latex?\int_{0}^{\pi}{log(1-6cosx+9)}dx[/im] 3)[im]http://codecogs.izyba.com/gif.latex?\int_{0}^{1}{\frac{x^{a-1}-x^{-a}}{(1+x)logx}}dx[/im]
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#2 Posted 5:43pm 11-03-10 Re: Nice Integral-~~~~in the first question use partial fractions... [image]43809400.jpg[/image] [image]43809545.jpg[/image].. on putting the limits u will get.. (A/a + B/b)π/2... |
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#3 Posted 5:49pm 11-03-10 Re: Nice Integral-~~~~ok wat abt rest of them
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#4 Posted 6:06pm 11-03-10 1[image]43810969.jpg[/image] |
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#5 Posted 9:04pm 11-03-10 Re: Nice Integral-~~~~In the 2nd one have you written 1 + 9 instead of 10 deliberately or is there a typo ?
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#6 Posted 11:22am 12-03-10 Re: Nice Integral-~~~~no thats not a typo
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#7 Posted 2:21pm 12-03-10 Re: Nice Integral-~~~~2 can be broken into integral of (below) and 2log2 parts; [image]43883859.jpg[/image] |
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#8 Posted 2:45pm 12-03-10 Re: Nice Integral-~~~~@Tapas..can u plz explain ur method.. |
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#9 Posted 3:22pm 12-03-10 Re: Nice Integral-~~~~substitute [im]http://alt2.mathlinks.ro/latexrender/pictures/d/d/2/dd22688bc564e64b5a901a619e3e8c4e42a9cc51.gif[/im] P.S use of mathematica shud be avoided [im]http://www.mathlinks.ro/images/smiles/wink.gif[/im] |
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#10 Posted 10:38pm 12-03-10 Re: Nice Integral-~~~~@tapas...... i think it has been reminded to u a lot of times [b]NOT TO USE MATHEMATICA ON THIS SITE[/b] [16][16] |
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#11 Posted 11:17pm 12-03-10 Re: Nice Integral-~~~~tapas.. i agree to the other comments.. I dont knwo what you are trying to prove by posting these fro mathematica.... Please try not to use this on the site.. It makes absolutely no sense at all...
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#12 Posted 11:32pm 12-03-10 Re: Nice Integral-~~~~awesome substitution in 10.. (I am not sure if i would have thought of the same :)
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#13 Posted 11:53pm 12-03-10 Re: Nice Integral-~~~~For 2) use the following general result: [im]http://codecogs.izyba.com/gif.latex?\int_0^\pi%20\ln(1-2a\cos%20x+a^2)\%20\mathrm%20dx%20=\left\{\begin{matrix}%200%20&%20\text{%20if%20}%20|a|\le%201\\[2ex]%202\pi\ln%20|a|%20&%20\text{%20if%20}%20|a|%3E1%20\end{matrix}}\right.[/im] to get the required result as [im]http://codecogs.izyba.com/gif.latex?2\pi%20\ln%203[/im]
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#14 Posted 11:57pm 12-03-10 Re: Nice Integral-~~~~Sir can we derive this formula without using the hint given by che? |
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#15 Posted 00:09am 13-03-10 Re: Nice Integral-~~~~Yes.. it could be done without that substitution. I think it has already been done in this forum itself. But I am unable to find that particular thread. |
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#16 Posted 00:40am 13-03-10 Re: Nice Integral-~~~~Yes it was one which was replied completely by prophet sir.. let me try to search that one..
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#17 Posted 01:11am 13-03-10 Re: Nice Integral-~~~~[im]http://codecogs.izyba.com/gif.latex?%5Ctext%7Bif%20we%20substituite%20%7D%201+a%5E2-2a%5Ccos%20x%20%3Dt%20%5C%5C%20%5Ctext%7B%20then%20the%20integral%20boils%20to%20%7D%5C%5C%20%5Cint_%7Ba_1%7D%5E%7Ba_2%7D%7B%5Cfrac%7B%5Clog%20%28t%29dt%7D%7B%5Csqrt%7Bt-a_1%7D%5Csqrt%7Bt-a_2%7D%7D%7D%5C%5C%20%5Ctext%7Bnow%20we%20can%20go%20by%20parts%7D%5C%5C%20%5Ctext%7Bhere%20%7Da_1%3D%28a-1%29%5E2%20%5C%20and%20%5C%20a_2%3D%28a+1%29%5E2[/im] but how to go about by che's hint ?
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#18 Posted 01:24am 13-03-10 Re: Nice Integral-~~~~no not that way.. the better way was to take x = pi-x then add both the integrals to find 2I.. Then go about using some trick to prove that there is some kind of a reccursion!
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#19 Posted 3:35pm 13-03-10 Re: Nice Integral-~~~~For the 3rd sum, differentiate w.r.t a, then evaluate the integral, followed by an indefinite one w.r.t. a. |
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#20 Posted 4:12pm 13-03-10 Re: Nice Integral-~~~~2 . problem given in arihant substitution is given in arihant indefinite integrals solved examples PAGE.NO --84 EXAMPLE--6 EDITION -2010-11 NEEDS A BIT KNOWLEDGE OF COMPLEX NO.S AND LOG .SERIES I DID NOT KNOW IT !!! THIS WAS TOLD TO ME BY QWERTY
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#21 Posted 5:47pm 13-03-10 Re: Nice Integral-~~~~is this ok ? following che's hint [im]http://alt1.artofproblemsolving.com/Forum/latexrender/pictures/2/b/4/2b4ebe2e52e7f80b6175226fe4f51d780450e1ac.gif[/im] |
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#22 Posted 10:06pm 13-03-10 Re: Nice Integral-~~~~no karna.. the second last step, you cant take the summation outside! Think something better... slightly... I think you have made a mistake in positioning of the bracket.
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#23 Posted 10:23pm 13-03-10 Re: Nice Integral-~~~~actually i didnt mean taking summation outside i meant taking integral inside |
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#24 Posted 10:32pm 13-03-10 Re: Nice Integral-~~~~sir i meant the bracket in second last line is closed after the integration is performed sorry for that actually these latex symbols made me so confused about placing i hope its correct now
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#25 Posted 10:58pm 13-03-10 Re: Nice Integral-~~~~Are these things at all are reqd? [im]http://codecogs.izyba.com/gif.latex?I%28k%29%3D%5Cint_%7B0%7D%5E%7B%5Cpi%7D%7Bln%28k+cos%5Calpha%29d%5Calpha%7D[/im] [im]http://codecogs.izyba.com/gif.latex?I%27%28k%29%3D%5Cint_%7B0%7D%5E%7B%5Cpi%7D%7B%5Cfrac%7Bd%5Calpha%7D%7Bk+cos%5Calpha%7D%7D%3D%5Cfrac%7B1%7D%7B%5Csqrt%7Bk%5E2-1%7D%7D%5Cleft%5C%7Bcos%5E%7B-1%7D%5Cleft%28%5Cfrac%7Bk+1%7D%7Bk+1%7D%20%5Cright%29-cos%5E%7B-1%7D%5Cleft%28%5Cfrac%7B1-k%7D%7Bk-1%7D%20%5Cright%29%20%5Cright%5C%7D[/im] From which we get [im]http://codecogs.izyba.com/gif.latex?I%27%28k%29%3D%5Cfrac%7B-%5Cpi%7D%7B%5Csqrt%7Bk%5E2-1%7D%7D[/im] [im]http://codecogs.izyba.com/gif.latex?I%28k%29%3D-%5Cpi%20ln%7Ck+%5Csqrt%7Bk%5E2-1%7D%7C+c[/im] For figuring out the const. we have for k=1, [im]http://codecogs.izyba.com/gif.latex?I%281%29%3D2%5Cint_%7B0%7D%5E%7B%5Cfrac%7B%5Cpi%7D%7B2%7D%7D%7Bln%28sin%5Calpha%29%20d%5Calpha%7D%3D2%5Cpi%20ln%20%5Cleft%28%5Cfrac%7B1%7D%7B2%7D%20%5Cright%29[/im] Thus the const. [im]http://codecogs.izyba.com/gif.latex?c%3D2%5Cpi%20ln%5Cleft%28%5Cfrac%7B1%7D%7B2%7D%20%5Cright%29[/im], and we need [im]http://codecogs.izyba.com/gif.latex?I%5Cleft%28%5Cfrac%7B10%7D%7B6%7D%20%5Cright%29[/im]. Many might be wondering what the heck [im]http://codecogs.izyba.com/gif.latex?I%5Cleft%28%5Cfrac%7B10%7D%7B6%7D%20%5Cright%29[/im] - let me clear that. See [im]http://codecogs.izyba.com/gif.latex?ln%2810+6cos%5Calpha%29%3Dln6%5Cleft%28%5Cfrac%7B10%7D%7B6%7D+cos%5Calpha%20%5Cright%29%3Dln6+ln%5Cleft%28%5Cfrac%7B10%7D%7B6%7D+cos%5Calpha%20%5Cright%29[/im]..... Finally plugging the values, we have the ans as [im]http://codecogs.izyba.com/gif.latex?%5Cboxed%7BI%3D2%5Cpi%20ln3%7D[/im] - as said by kaymant sir. Done!!! [56] |
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#26 Posted 02:30am 15-03-10 Re: Nice Integral-~~~~@soumik I was wondering how you got that integral in the second step in terms of cos inverse. |
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#27 Posted 2:44pm 15-03-10 Re: Nice Integral-~~~~Sir, but that's an integral of the form [im]http://codecogs.izyba.com/gif.latex?%5Cint%20%5Cfrac%7Bdx%7D%7Ba+bcosx%7D[/im], which here turns out to be [im]http://codecogs.izyba.com/gif.latex?%5Cfrac%7B1%7D%7B%5Csqrt%7Bk%5E2-1%7D%7Dcos%5E%7B-1%7D%5Cleft%5B%5Cfrac%7B1+kcosx%7D%7Bk+cosx%7D%5Cright%5D%20_%7B0%7D%5E%7B%5Cpi%7D[/im]....sorry if I'm making some silly error - but pls ppoint it out to me. |
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#28 Posted 0:10pm 16-03-10 Re: Nice Integral-~~~~how did this change to a definite integral?
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#29 Posted 1:34pm 16-03-10 Re: Nice Integral-~~~~AArey sir, put the limits....[im]http://codecogs.izyba.com/gif.latex?%5Cint_%7B0%7D%5E%7B%5Cpi%7D%7B%5Cfrac%7Bdx%7D%7Ba+bcosx%7D%7D[/im] Here a=k and b=1. |
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#30 Posted 10:47am 24-03-10 Re: Nice Integral-~~~~Consider integrating [im]http://codecogs.izyba.com/gif.latex?\,\phi(\alpha)=\int_0^\pi\,\ln(1-2\alpha\cos(x)+\alpha^2)\;dx\, %20[/im] now, [im]http://codecogs.izyba.com/gif.latex? \begin{align} \frac{d}{d\alpha}\,\phi(\alpha)\, &=\int_0^\pi \frac{-2\cos(x)+2\alpha}{1-2\alpha \cos(x)+\alpha^2}\;dx\, \\ &=\frac{1}{\alpha}\int_0^\pi\,\left(1-\frac{(1-\alpha)^2}{1-2\alpha \cos(x)+\alpha^2}\,\right)\,dx\, \\ &=\frac{\pi}{\alpha}-\frac{2}{\alpha}\left\{\,\arctan\left(\frac{1+\alpha}{1-\alpha}\cdot\tan\left(\frac{x}{2}\right)\right)\,\right\}\,\bigg|_0^\pi. \end{align} %20[/im] As x varies from 0 to [im]http://codecogs.izyba.com/gif.latex?\pi[/im], [im]http://codecogs.izyba.com/gif.latex?\left(\frac{1+\alpha}{1-\alpha}\cdot\tan\left(\frac{x}{2}\right)\right)\, %20 [/im]varies through positive values from 0 to infinity when [im]http://codecogs.izyba.com/gif.latex?-1%3C\alpha%20%3C1[/im] and [im]http://codecogs.izyba.com/gif.latex?\left(\frac{1+\alpha}{1-\alpha}\cdot\tan\left(\frac{x}{2}\right)\right)\, %20 [/im] varies through negative values from [im]http://codecogs.izyba.com/gif.latex?0%20,%20-\infty[/im] when [im]http://codecogs.izyba.com/gif.latex?\alpha%20%3C%20-1,or,\alpha%20%3E1[/im] Hence, [im]http://codecogs.izyba.com/gif.latex?\\arctan\left(\frac{1+\alpha}{1-\alpha}\cdot\tan\left(\frac{x}{2}\right)\right)\,\bigg|_0^\pi=\frac{\pi}{2}\,[/im] when [im]http://codecogs.izyba.com/gif.latex?-1%3C\alpha%20%3C1[/im] [im]http://codecogs.izyba.com/gif.latex?\\arctan\left(\frac{1+\alpha}{1-\alpha}\cdot\tan\left(\frac{x}{2}\right)\right)\,\bigg|_0^\pi=-\frac{\pi}{2}\,[/im] when [im]http://codecogs.izyba.com/gif.latex?\alpha%20%3C%20-1,or,\alpha%20%3E1[/im] Therefore , [im]http://codecogs.izyba.com/gif.latex?\frac{d}{d\alpha}\,\phi(\alpha)\,=0\,[/im] when [im]http://codecogs.izyba.com/gif.latex?-1%3C\alpha%20%3C1[/im] [im]http://codecogs.izyba.com/gif.latex?\frac{d}{d\alpha}\,\phi(\alpha)\,=\frac{2\pi}{\alpha}\,[/im] when [im]http://codecogs.izyba.com/gif.latex?\alpha%20%3C%20-1,or,\alpha%20%3E1[/im] Upon integrating both sides with respect to wrt [im]http://codecogs.izyba.com/gif.latex?\alpha[/im] we get [im]http://codecogs.izyba.com/gif.latex?\phi%20(\alpha%20)%20=%20C_{1}[/im] when [im]http://codecogs.izyba.com/gif.latex?-1%3C\alpha%20%3C1[/im] and [im]http://codecogs.izyba.com/gif.latex?\phi%20(\alpha%20)%20=%202\pi%20ln\left|\alpha%20\right|+C_{2}[/im] when [im]http://codecogs.izyba.com/gif.latex?\alpha%20%3C%20-1,or,\alpha%20%3E1[/im] C[ss]1[/ss] can be determined by setting [im]http://codecogs.izyba.com/gif.latex?\alpha[/im] = 0 we get C[ss]1[/ss] = 0 to determine C[ss]2[/ss] we substitute http://codecogs.izyba.com/gif.latex?\alpha%20=\frac{1}{\beta%20} where [im]http://codecogs.izyba.com/gif.latex?-1%3C\beta%20%3C1[/im] [im]http://codecogs.izyba.com/gif.latex? \begin{align} \phi(\alpha) &=\int_0^\pi\left(\ln(1-2\beta \cos(x)+\beta^2)-2\ln|\beta|\right)\;dx\, \\ &=0-2\pi\ln|\beta|\, \\ &=2\pi\ln|\alpha|\, \end{align} [/im] hence we can conclude [im]http://codecogs.izyba.com/gif.latex?\phi%20(\alpha%20)%20=%200,-1%3C\alpha%20%3C1[/im] and [im]http://codecogs.izyba.com/gif.latex?\phi%20(\alpha%20)%20=%202\pi%20ln\left|\alpha%20\right|%20when,-1%3E\alpha%20,\alpha%20%3E1[/im]
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#31 Posted 10:58pm 24-03-10 Re: Nice Integral-~~~~[im]http://codecogs.izyba.com/gif.latex?I=\int_{0}^{1}{\frac{x^{a-1}-x^{-a}}{(1+x)lnx}dx}%20\\=\int_{0}^{1}{\frac{x^{a-1}}{(1+x)lnx}dx}-\int_{0}^{1}{\frac{x^{-a}}{(1+x)lnx}dx}%20\\%20\\Substitute\:%20x=\frac{1}{t}%20\:%20in\:%20second\:%20integral%20\\we\:%20get:%20\\=\int_{0}^{1}{\frac{x^{a-1}}{(1+x)lnx}dx}+\int_{1}^{\infty}{\frac{t^{a-1}}{(1+t)lnt}dt}%20\\=\int_{0}^{\infty}{\frac{x^{a-1}}{(1+x)lnx}dx}%20\\Consider:\:%20f(a)=\int_{0}^{\infty}{\frac{x^{a-1}}{(1+x)lnx}dx}%20\\\frac{\partial%20f}{\partial%20a}=\int_{0}^{\infty}%20{\frac{x^{a-1}}{1+x}dx}%20\\Now\:%20substitute\:%20x=\frac{1}{z}-1%20\\You\:%20will\:%20get:%20\\\frac{\partial%20f}{\partial%20a}=%20\int_{0}^{1}{z^{-a}(1-z)^{1-a}}=\beta(1-a,a)=\pi cosec(a\pi)%20\\f(a)=-ln\left|cosec\pi%20a+cot\pi%20a%20\right|+c%20\\f\left(\frac{1}{2}%20\right)=0%20\\or,\:%20c-ln\left|cosec\frac{\pi}{2}%20+cot\frac{\pi}{2}%20\right|=0%20\\or,\:%20c=0%20\\Therefore:%20\:%20I=-ln\left|cosec\pi%20a+cot\pi%20a%20\right|[/im] Beta function is not in JEE syllabus. I have used a property of beta function in my solution only because I was not able to evaluate the integral in any other way. Do point out any mistake in my solution.
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#32 Posted 9:18pm 16-05-10 Re: Nice Integral-~~~~well this was solved beautifully by nishant and theprophet sir http://targetiit.com/iit-jee-forum/posts/prove-the-following-11283.html |
