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Che

#1 Posted 2:43pm 05-02-10  

polynomial

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theprophet

#2 Posted 4:11pm 05-02-10  

Re: polynomial

Seems to me that we cannot find such polynomials.

We will use the fact that for sufficiently large magnitudes of x, the sign of P(x) coincides with the sign of the leading coefficient.

For convenience I will write A instead of A(x).

Let G = |A|-|B|+|C|

There are two cases to be considered:

I. A and C have the same signs for the leading coefficient.

Then we see that [im]http://codecogs.izyba.com/gif.latex?G%28x%29%20%3D%20-G%28-x%29[/im] for sufficiently large magnitudes of x and this implies that [im]http://codecogs.izyba.com/gif.latex?%7CG%28x%29%7C%20%3D%20%7CG%28-x%29%7C[/im]

But we get a contradiction here as [im]http://codecogs.izyba.com/gif.latex?x%20%5Crightarrow%20%5Cinfty%20%5CRightarrow%20%7CG%28x%29%7C%20%5Crightarrow%20%5Cinfty[/im] and [im]http://codecogs.izyba.com/gif.latex?x%20%5Crightarrow%20-%5Cinfty%20%5CRightarrow%20%7CG%28x%29%7C%3D1[/im]

2. WLOG A and B have the same sign and leading coeff of C is -ve

Then we get the equations

A-B-C = -2x+2

-A+B+C = -1

which are true for infinitely many values of x

so that C ≡ x + 3/2 contradicting that leading coefficient of C is -ve

So no such polynomials A,B, C exist
   

Che

#3 Posted 4:36pm 05-02-10  

Re: polynomial

[im]http://latex.codecogs.com/gif.latex?\\%20\texttt{sir\:%20i\:%20dunno\:%20but%20\:ans\:%20given\:%20is\:\\%20}\\%20A(x)=\frac{3x+3}{2}\\%20B(x)=5x/2\\%20C(x)=-x%20+\frac{1}{2}%20\\[/im]

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theprophet

#4 Posted 9:05pm 05-02-10  

Re: polynomial

If you take A,B, C as given by you, then for x> 1/2, you get |A(x)| = A(x), |B(x)| = B(x) and |C(x)| = x - 1/2

So, |A(x)|-|B(x)| + |C(x)| = 1. So the answer provided by you doesnt fulfil the conditions.
   

Che

#5 Posted 11:21pm 05-02-10  

Re: polynomial

hmm

i guess u r rit

then may be ans given is wrong !
 Edited on 11:22pm 05-02-10    

Nishant

#6 Posted 10:39am 07-02-10  

Re: polynomial

ONe more observation, which i would like to put forward is this..


The nature of the function changes at the point where |A| or |B| or |C|  is zero


so we should definitely have 0 and 1 as the roots of a few of the given polynomials.....


and the other roots should appear in multiples (if at all!)

And that gives more reason for the given answer to be incorrect...


-when spring comes, it melts the snow one flake at a time…    

Che

#7 Posted 0:56pm 07-02-10  

Re: polynomial

ok thanx both of u

:)
   

Che

#8 Posted 8:04pm 13-02-10  

Re: polynomial

this prob actually has a printing mistake :P

its shud be jus[b] C(x) instead of mod(C(x))[/b]

got to know today that it is a PUTNAM 1999 prob

i picked it from maths today.....and as usual it had a printing mistake....

i wont rely on maths today from now [16]

check this http://www.math.hawaii.edu/home/putnam/1999.pdf
   
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